there was no need to put this on your site... im sure he will be happy when he hears about it.. good job mark!! we want positive stories!!... about success! not screw up..
Not surprised. Not only is their program an embarrassment, I would never hire anyone with a degree from CBU. Academics are weak and athletic practices, as well as athlete packages, questionable.
My first thought when I read this was why am I not surprised? Charters should be given an ultimatum by the AD....either clean up your act or you will be terminated. This is absolutely unacceptable. Charters has repeatedly demonstrated he cannot or will not rein in his players. Small wonder this program underachieves year after year...wonderful talent, abysmal discipline and work ethic. If the CBU players were indeed engaging in "extracurricular" activities the night before a critical game, then they got what they deserved. What the AUS doesn't need is this program continuing to find ways to embarrass itself and the conference.
Hey anon 2:31.... Who are you talking about when you said "im sure he will be happy when he hears about it"? Oh.and BTW...Tremaine Fraser has just been charged with weapons violations! LOL, these guys are too much!
What does the CBU academic program have to do with a guy getting into a bar fight with police officers? Of course you would never hire anyone with a CBU degree because that would mean you are in a position of power. Go back to filling up my tank at the gas pump!
It's sad that people consistently stereotype CBU academics as poor. The school from an academic standpoint is actually on quite the rise and their nursing, engineering, chemistry, and public health programs are some of the best in the country. I believe these programs are all accredited meaning they have been analyzed in detail and they meet or exceed national standards. Just because it is a young institution doesn't mean that they give a poor quality education. I know this has nothing to do with the recent mishaps in men's basketball, but it needs to be said. In terms of these other issues, there's only so much a man can do to control other men. I'm sure charters tells his players to stay out of trouble, he would be a fool not to. He needs to recruit better people and rebuild bottom up.
While I agree the general academic standards of CBU has nothing to do with the behaviour of a few student athletes, I really think someone has to take responsibility for what has gone on. These incidents with those two players are not isolated by any means. There is a history of problems here with this particular program. Some coaches run a tight ship...others, apparently, do not. In this case, both Charters and AD Ryan have to reassess the public image of this program and decide what to do to prevent further incidents such as these in the future.
There needs to be some accountability for CBU regarding these incidents. Especially since Nkrumah's arrest was covered up. I hope the school or the CIS takes a stand rather than just sweeping this under the rug.
Also CBU's education is one of the lowest rated in Canada, I believe this is where the earlier comments were coming from.
I'd like to understand how other schools keep their players under lock and key between games and practices, and guarantee that they never get into trouble. Not that getting into trouble is the exclusive domain of basketball players or student/athletes in general; certainly enough bad news about students who aren't athletes, if you're reading the newspaper, other than the sports page. The coach is responsible for the behavior of his players on the court and when they're participating in specific athletic events. Expecting the coaching staff to be responsible 7/24, both on and off campus, is unreasonable. And taking a crack at the academics, without evidence? Sour grapes? Did you flunk out there? I see that they have several academic all-canadians on this team every year, as well as some community service awards, so they're capable of good things, too. But sometimes kids get themselves in trouble, and these kids are under a brighter spotlight than others not playing sports.
CBU is rated low in Macleans because there rating system is biased to older schools and things like research funding, staff who have won major awards, budget and library funding. CBU is a young school and if you actually look into details CBU rates very high in things that matter like prof/student ratio, educational experience, they score very well. As well as being a young school, they have fairly young staff. Along with means they are less likely to have won any prizes, and likely draw in fewer dollars for research then they would 20 years from now. Lastly, things like school and library budget. Of course the school is going to have a small budget they are a very small school, but they get a poor ranking because of all these things. ONLY 20% of the Macleans rating is due to 'reputation' that you guys are knocking on CBU for grads not being able to get a job or into post grad programs. If you guys actually did your research you would understand that. But this negative stereotype of a low Macleans rating makes people thing a school has a bad reputation is so much more than that. Almost all the older schools are in the top 10-15 because they have these long tenured faculty along with their awards and research grants, large student bodies, huge budgets and libraries, etc. It's annoying to see the ignorance people have when they really have no idea how things are done.
I think had these incidents come from a team who carries themselves well on the floor we could use the argument that CBU can't be responsible for controlling their athletes 24/7. The problem is, CBU men's basketball is routinely picking up technical fouls, ejections, embarrassing altercations with fans, and I include Charters in this mix of behavior. If players are not accountable for bad behavior on the floor during competition, eventually it will leak out into other areas.
Cape Breton is also rated low in things like incoming GPA. It also is funny how they have so many Academic All Canadians compared to other schools. It is unlikely they have stronger students than schools like Waterloo, Queens, U of T, McGill and Western.
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there was no need to put this on your site... im sure he will be happy when he hears about it.. good job mark!! we want positive stories!!... about success! not screw up..
Not surprised. Not only is their program an embarrassment, I would never hire anyone with a degree from CBU. Academics are weak and athletic practices, as well as athlete packages, questionable.
My first thought when I read this was
why am I not surprised?
Charters should be given an ultimatum by the AD....either clean up your act or you will be terminated.
This is absolutely unacceptable.
Charters has repeatedly demonstrated he cannot or will not rein in his players.
Small wonder this program underachieves year after year...wonderful talent, abysmal discipline and work ethic.
If the CBU players were indeed engaging in "extracurricular" activities the night before a critical game, then they got what they deserved.
What the AUS doesn't need is this program continuing to find ways to embarrass itself and the conference.
Hey anon 2:31....
Who are you talking about when you said "im sure he will be happy when he hears about it"?
Oh.and BTW...Tremaine Fraser has just been charged with weapons violations!
LOL, these guys are too much!
What does the CBU academic program have to do with a guy getting into a bar fight with police officers? Of course you would never hire anyone with a CBU degree because that would mean you are in a position of power. Go back to filling up my tank at the gas pump!
http://www.capebretonpost.com/News/Local/2011-04-28/article-2464193/Capers-hoops-star-charged-in-shooting/1
It's sad that people consistently stereotype CBU academics as poor. The school from an academic standpoint is actually on quite the rise and their nursing, engineering, chemistry, and public health programs are some of the best in the country. I believe these programs are all accredited meaning they have been analyzed in detail and they meet or exceed national standards. Just because it is a young institution doesn't mean that they give a poor quality education. I know this has nothing to do with the recent mishaps in men's basketball, but it needs to be said. In terms of these other issues, there's only so much a man can do to control other men. I'm sure charters tells his players to stay out of trouble, he would be a fool not to. He needs to recruit better people and rebuild bottom up.
While I agree the general academic standards of CBU has nothing to do with the behaviour of a few student athletes, I really think someone has to take responsibility for what has gone on.
These incidents with those two players are not isolated by any means.
There is a history of problems here with this particular program.
Some coaches run a tight ship...others, apparently, do not.
In this case, both Charters and AD Ryan have to reassess the public image of this program and decide what to do to prevent further incidents such as these in the future.
There needs to be some accountability for CBU regarding these incidents. Especially since Nkrumah's arrest was covered up. I hope the school or the CIS takes a stand rather than just sweeping this under the rug.
Also CBU's education is one of the lowest rated in Canada, I believe this is where the earlier comments were coming from.
I'd like to understand how other schools keep their players under lock and key between games and practices, and guarantee that they never get into trouble. Not that getting into trouble is the exclusive domain of basketball players or student/athletes in general; certainly enough bad news about students who aren't athletes, if you're reading the newspaper, other than the sports page. The coach is responsible for the behavior of his players on the court and when they're participating in specific athletic events. Expecting the coaching staff to be responsible 7/24, both on and off campus, is unreasonable. And taking a crack at the academics, without evidence? Sour grapes? Did you flunk out there? I see that they have several academic all-canadians on this team every year, as well as some community service awards, so they're capable of good things, too. But sometimes kids get themselves in trouble, and these kids are under a brighter spotlight than others not playing sports.
CBU is rated low in Macleans because there rating system is biased to older schools and things like research funding, staff who have won major awards, budget and library funding. CBU is a young school and if you actually look into details CBU rates very high in things that matter like prof/student ratio, educational experience, they score very well. As well as being a young school, they have fairly young staff. Along with means they are less likely to have won any prizes, and likely draw in fewer dollars for research then they would 20 years from now. Lastly, things like school and library budget. Of course the school is going to have a small budget they are a very small school, but they get a poor ranking because of all these things. ONLY 20% of the Macleans rating is due to 'reputation' that you guys are knocking on CBU for grads not being able to get a job or into post grad programs. If you guys actually did your research you would understand that. But this negative stereotype of a low Macleans rating makes people thing a school has a bad reputation is so much more than that. Almost all the older schools are in the top 10-15 because they have these long tenured faculty along with their awards and research grants, large student bodies, huge budgets and libraries, etc. It's annoying to see the ignorance people have when they really have no idea how things are done.
I think had these incidents come from a team who carries themselves well on the floor we could use the argument that CBU can't be responsible for controlling their athletes 24/7. The problem is, CBU men's basketball is routinely picking up technical fouls, ejections, embarrassing altercations with fans, and I include Charters in this mix of behavior. If players are not accountable for bad behavior on the floor during competition, eventually it will leak out into other areas.
Cape Breton is also rated low in things like incoming GPA. It also is funny how they have so many Academic All Canadians compared to other schools. It is unlikely they have stronger students than schools like Waterloo, Queens, U of T, McGill and Western.
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